Changes afoot? Discuss. To review:
Without question, basketball will no longer have weekly lineups. However, I am reminded why the original change was made- and that was to prevent teams from overloading on games, but would reward balanced rosters and strategy more. I looked, and it is not possible to limit games per position (a la baseball) in a head-to-head league. It is possible in a roto league. Questions:
-Would anyone prefer an 10x8 roto league?-If staying h2h, should we remove or add a stat category to stop the 4-4s?
If you have any strong feelings about the rules for basketball next season, email me. Otherwise you're stuck with whatever Eli and I discuss online (because the VUFSA is literally all we talk about ever since the Cubs got contracted).
While we're at it, I had a question about future baseball leagues. Would there be support for lowering the innings pitched limit from 1500 to something like 1200-1300? It would limit your rosters, but improve depth. Just something else that my mind wanders to while at work. Any feelings welcome as well. But again, if you don't talk, you can't complain.
Please use this thread to relay your thoughts, or to provide good dates/bad dates for the football draft. You are all my bitches.
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Not sure when the actual football season starts, but the final Sunday (Sept. 3) is completely out for me, as this is the day my roommates gets married. That Friday (the first) is also out for me and the 2nd is probably not much better, though it's do-able.
The weekend of the 25-27 would be best for me.
I've been swayed by the arguments that basketball should be kept head-to-head.
-Drew
I keep forgetting this very important change I would like to see:
The removal of the "snake" draft. I propose that from now on, we draft 1-10, 1-10 rather than 1-10, 10-1.
Is this worth a vote?
two things -
1. I completely agree with JR's basketball e-mail and sent one to Ed before I knew we were "sharing." Sadly, now I'm in a bad mood and not going to share it with anyone else.
2. Get rid of the snake draft. Promote parity and give hope to the long suffering fans of Lincoln, me, Champ and the expansion boys.
-andy (anonymous non-blogger)
Dammit, I had already been pleased with my second round choice in the mock draft I engineered, using the snake draft model.
I don't like removing it because for those that pay attention, my team is super, super fucked and needs talent. However, I think it's a good thing for the league. So I stand neutral, and will vote for its removal if needed for tiebreaker purposes.
When do we submit keepers so we can start figuring out just HOW fucked I am?
Since he doesn't feel like sharing now, here's Andy's Basketball note:
I'd vote to stay away from a roto league, I think the head-to-head keeps everyone interested for the whole year. A roto league would only make less people pay attention less often, in my opinion.
As for basketball as a whole, I never noticed a problem two years ago with people loading up on games. I don't know why that is, because I paid attention to the league, but I never saw that as the problem you apparently do. I just think picking up and dropping questionable players (especially with the waiver wire in place) is a risk owners should be able to take if they want, and if they play the strategy right while dropping interchangable parts I tip my cap. However, I think one option to combat that might be expanding the rosters (not starters) in general. If the pool of free agent players is smaller, maybe there won't be as many useful players out there to be picked up and dropped.
Scoring-wise in basketball, the only category I can think of would be either free throw percentage (de-valuing Ben Wallace and Shaq a ton) or turnovers (de-valuing Jason Richardson and Iverson a ton). Although, I don't mind the 4-4 scores except in the playoffs.
Andy brought the word parity into the draft talk- and that's the #1 reason for it's removal. It was perfectly acceptable in year 1, but has run it's course. The more I think about it, the stronger I feel about it, and may just remove it without a vote. Is there a major problem with that?
Kill the snake! Kill the snake!
While we are all whining, let me throw another one out there. I propose eliminating free agents in football and making everyone a part of the waiver wire that is not on a team. My thought process here is that if Priest Holmes remains dead, and Larry Johnson breaks his leg, the person who should get the newly valuable backup should not be the person who is watching the game on TV but rather the person with the highest waiver priority (24 hours would seem sufficient). I propose calling this the Walgreens clause because as someone who worked every Sunday last season, I would come home and find that every backup who was thrown into starting duty was picked up by a team, and I hadn't even had the chance to see if Cleveland managed to score a field goal. While I understand that rewarding attentiveness is important, should we handicap others in the league who are unable to watch the games directly as they unfold? (If you answered yes, and your name is JR, I'm voting for the draft being Sept. 3).
-Drew
I agree with Drew only if the waiver period is short (say midnight sunday) and as long as it's not used for any other sport. It doesn't work anywhere other than football.
-andy
(thanks, ed)
I've been naked for hours now
I'm in favor of both eliminating the snake and the Walgreens Clause.
I'm not in favor of JR being naked.
Andy's modification would be fine as I wanted a short time frame, though I'm not sure how detailed Yahoo would let us be with waiver wire time. Ed, any idea?
And no other sport would be necessary. Just the one where a player is good, at best, for 13 regular season games.
-Drew
I checked and there is no way for the league to leave players on waivers for just one day. It would have to be an honor system thing, and it would have to be in waiver draft form. If we decide to go with this, I think I have an idea of how it would work.
There's a flaw in the Walgreens clause for me, however. Say LDT tweaks an ankle before his 4:05 start. Can I then pick up his backup? Or what if someone's monday night starter is pronounced out on Sunday afternoon? Where and when can we make exceptions?
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure ye shall), but if LDT tweaks his ankle before a 4:05 game, won't any roster changes be frozen until the following day/week? I know you can make switches to your lineup, but can you amend your roster in time for kickoff?
If not, then there is no flaw. If there's a moratorium on roster changes starting Sunday, as I think there basically is anyway, then we're good.
Not sure if the changes go into effect the next day, and thus affect Monday's roster ... but that's an awfully isolated circumstance. And besides, won't your roster be completely set (having played games) anyway, unless you have the backup on the same team?
The answer is none. None more black.
Also, why does the waiver period need to be short, like one day? Three days serves the same function, since you have a whole week before the next games. It gives absolutely everyone a chance to claim a guy...so when Drew has Wallgreens retreats or someone is away for a wedding, they don't have to bribe someone at the local wi-fi cafe to use their internet. With sexual favors.
How can you physically hold everyone on waivers? Is that even an option?
Would I vote for it if I were the dominant force in the league? No. But I'm in a rebuilding year. Count me in for the Wallgreens clause.
Leave basketball as head-to-head, but like Andy and others have mentioned, one more category would be better. That way, a meaningless steal by Kobe wouldn't have impacted the playoffs quite so much (sorry JR). Is there a way to have the season end a week earlier so that teams with a lot of playoff guys aren't hurt by them getting fewer minutes?
I'm all for doing away with the snake draft. The Walgreens clause sounds fine, and I'm good for drafting anytime except the 18-20.
-Stem
Alright, I'll give you this now because I can't do a lot of dates (soccer/volleyball season).
Not including days anyone else already shot down, it looks like August 26 is the only fully clear day for me. I could do the 27th, but only if the draft was at night (5:00 start or later). Any weekday is completely out, especially Fridays (volleyball)
-andy
Since I always win, I'm not in favor of doing away with the snake draft.
Basketball should remain head to head.
In terms of adding another category, I don't like the idea of turnovers entirely -- because I'm not a huge fan of negative fantasy stats. But what about assist/turnover ratio? Is that an option?
Most Saturdays and Sundays in August are good for me in terms of drafting for football, where I will select a quarterback who will likely fluctuate between weeks of 30 points and 9 points, depending on whether I need them.
Should I keep Antonio Gates or Willis McGahee? Phillip Rivers is not good; neither are the Bills.
re: roster amendments pre 4:05
You can pick up any player who hasn't played for the day. So any westcoaster or NightGamer is fair play. The catch is you can't release a player that has already played.
The Walgreens clause would probably require forbidding waiver moves by the commish, like we do at the end of a season. We would have to hold a waiver draft via email every wednesday, where teams rank free agents they want 1-3 or whatever, and the team with waiver priority 1 is the first pick in the first round. We pick until all players are claimed and then everyone is fair game again. (this is not a live draft situation, it would all be handled by me.) This is probably the fairest way to do things.
It's a pretty simple procedure, but it is tough to really make wholesale changes to a roster this way. Also, I could see teams shying away from moves to preserve their high waiver priority for a 'just in case' situation.
Other misc points:
-The snake discussion is pretty much over. The snake is deasd.
-I would like to focus this thread more on football, since that is nearest to us. I have made note of all the basketball suggestions, and will discuss with drew to rework the league rules and present a proposal for approval.
-Draft times will be handled via email, like usual. Please don't post available times here anymore.
-JR's team isn't nearly as bad as he thinks, although his RBs are indeed thin.
-Eli, no one thought Drew Brees was good until Antonio Gates came around either. Plus you'll already have 3 RBs to keep. Then again, TEs are never worth what runners are. Just keep Kurt Warner and be done with it.
-Any final thoughts on the Walgreens (note: only 1 "L" JR) clause and how it will be executed should be shouted here as they come to you.
The Walgreens clause just sounds a little convoluted to me. I know some people don't have access to a computer instantly while others do, but I don't think it's a reason to completely revamp the way waiver wire pickups are done. I don't think running to the wire to grab someone's backup has significantly impacted the league during the last two seasons -- Ed has won it because he has very good core players.
Doing e-mail waiver drafts every Wednesday would get very old, very quick. I don't see it being worth the trouble.
Boners.
Re: Wallgreens clause
I don't understand why we'd have to have a "draft" every Wednesday or whatever. That seems painstaking and stupid. What's wrong with just having everyone on waivers and allowing for a window of 1-3 days from the time they are first claimed? Is that simply not feasible within yahoo?
You don't think picking up backups has been a big deal? Larry Johnson. I'm not saying every guy out there is going to be an insta-keeper based on the injury status of his predecessor, but just the fact that said player is out there (and important enough in football to dramatically alter results) tells you that the guy who works a Sunday shift is disadvantaged compared to the geek who never leaves the computer.
However, if the process becomes so absurd that we need a weekly "waiver draft" -- I still maintain that there simply must be a more efficient way -- then it may not be worth the trouble.
Larry Johnson was not a waiver wire pickup last year. Everyone knew he was going to get a ton of carries and he was a big-time sleeper going into the draft -- I don't remember for sure, but I think Ed took him sometime in the first eight rounds.
Most good backups are drafted in the later rounds of the draft anyway. Free agent pickups don't usually have the impact of baseball or basketball guys.
Oh. Well, go to hell.
I would just like to thank Andy for his continued support.
Also, like JR, I am not a fan of complexity (I'm assuming the nudity is some form of protest along these lines). The phrase "waiver draft via email every wednesday" makes my head hurt. I would vote for the Walgreens clause and the 1 - 3 day window suggestion. If we can't find a Yahoo way to do it, I'd say leave it alone.
I want to see pictures of Lincoln's kid(s??). Post them in this space.
Consider this, all you people talking about how bad your football team is going to be (JR).
I think my keepers are going to include Chester Taylor and DeShaun Foster.
Yeah.
I don't really think any of the keeper talk matters, because none of us have a chance against Ed this year.
Larry Johnson
Tomlinson
Rudi Johnson
Chad Johnson
Steve Smith
That's a lot of johnson.
MARMOT IN THE BATHTUB!
At this point, it's all we can hope for.
Nice marmot.
I am the walrus.
You mean coitus?
You mean vagina? I mean, you know the guy?
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